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Sam Winchester ([personal profile] hellunbounded) wrote2025-06-21 10:04 am

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This is Sam Winchester, I'll get back to you when I can.
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[personal profile] godjr 2025-07-30 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
[ Sam's immediate concern for him is soothing, although not much can soothe him at the moment, but at least he still cares. Sam's always cared about him, from the moment he was born, he showed concern and kindness, and it became a beacon for Jack in those early days, someone he could hold onto and trust with Castiel dead. In many ways, Sam has been his center, the first person close to him, the first who showed him love. The only person who could have convinced him to put himself in the box, or the only person who Lucifer could use to try and squirm closer to him in the other universe. Sam Winchester.]

Castiel and I got into a terrible fight and we said some things and he yelled at me and he's afraid of me.

[ Jack is usually pretty calm from Sam's experience with him so far because he hasn't gotten to the worst of times for his kid, so seeing him unraveling like this, tears in his eyes, heartbroken, would be new. Sam would also know that Castiel is pretty much the only person who never feared Jack and always treated him gently.]

He said he was subjecting himself to me and indulging me, and he didn't want us to travel together because I couldn't control myself.

[ Which was fair, given the situation that led there, but Jack isn't thinking fairly or logically at the moment, he's having an emotional breakdown.]

And then he said something so terrible, I ... Sam, he sees me like Dean did, he thinks I'm a monster, I can see it, he will never love me.
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[personal profile] godjr 2025-08-02 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Jack is an emotional person but in the beginning he was much more confused and placid and learning about the world as it came to him. When he was upset it was intense and sudden, but it generally smoothed away into his calm acceptance of simply experiencing life and reacting as things came to him. But his fight in the other world against Michael started to make him vicious, to his enemies, and his death and loss of his soul really ripped apart his concept of self.

It's been a short and tragic life so far and being here has given him many things, but he's also vulnerable. He doesn't know how to fix things for Castiel who has always been a refuge for him, a parent who never gave him any less than himself. He's starting to see maybe he wasn't as perfect as he thought, and Castiel had an entire history that he never showed or told Jack. He's starting to think that maybe it wasn't wise of him to keep Jack ignorant, but criticizing his parents seems beyond him at this time.

Sam for example does know what he needs even if there is experience between them that hasn't happened. Jack gets enveloped in Sam's arms and immediately hugs him back, burrowing his head in Sam's shoulder like he is an actual child seeking comfort. He's only truly cried like this after he got his soul back, but there's a lot that has happened to him in a short amount of time.

He breathes because Sam tells him to and he clings. Castiel doesn't love him but Sam does. It's something. It's enough.]


He accused me altering his mind. That I forced him to love me when I was in my mother, and that's why he was loyal.

[ That is something that will haunt Jack even if he aggressively had denied it. The idea never occurred to him.]

I know he's very sad and depressed but he really thinks that of me.

[ Jack feels sorrow for Castiel and everything he's going through, he's been around him enough times to know that he is dealing with his own pain. But it's just such a hard line in the sand that he can't surpass.]

I didn't, Sam. I didn't do that to any of you.

[ If he was that person, he would have done it to Dean a long time ago, but it's important to him that Sam believes him.]
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[personal profile] godjr 2025-08-02 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Jack does as Sam says without any hesitation. He sits where he tells him to, he takes the water when it's handed to him. A lot has happened in the past few years and this is not the first time anyone has doubted his motivations or intentions. With power like his, he understands why everyone was concerned, and he doesn't blame them. But it still hurts him to feel back there again, when he worked so hard to prove himself.

But this Sam doesn't know about Mary. Jack is too afraid to tell him. Then they'll both reject him and he'll hide with Rowena, who does know, so he has her. But he doesn't think he can handle rejection from both Castiel and Sam right then. He's always been fragile. He's more aware of that than ever, and no matter how much he's tried to be strong and mature now, he knows what even a little bit of temper on his part can do.

He relaxes when Sam reassures him and it helps that he adds that no one can do that, because a part of him did fear it. He's always afraid of becoming Lucifer.]


I don't remember everything from that time, but I know I never fulfilled my end of the vision. [ It's said glumly, because he knows that it is what made Castiel trust him.] But I think maybe that's why my destiny is to kill Chuck. Maybe that's what it meant all along, and I'll finally have proved myself.

[ Jack has a fate, it was made pretty obvious by Chuck's death book. He was meant to do something no one else could. Perhaps that fate is the vision too.]

He's so sad, Sam, and I'm trying to take care of him, I'm trying to look after him like he would, but it's hard when he doesn't want me.
Edited 2025-08-02 20:45 (UTC)
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some suicidal-ish thoughts

[personal profile] godjr 2025-08-05 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
He said I made him into what I needed and that I was in his head and changed him. He said his head had been torn by others before by people forcing loyalty and that they were nothing in power compared to me.

( Jack remembers exactly what Castiel said because it got to him, so deeply. He's not going to forget those words any time soon. It felt like personal attack after personal attack, and while he intellectually doesn't think that is what Castiel was trying to do to a cruel level, it felt terrible. If others manipulated his mind, he's projecting, he is assuming the worst of Jack, and Jack is Lucifer's child who has done that to many people, of course he might think that he could be capable.

Jack drinks his water and looks down at it, setting it down and considering the next part before saying it. Because he knows that this opens some doors he doesn't want to entirely talk about, but it is relevant to his concerns.)


I was mad at you and Dean for lying to me, and I made the entire world stop lying by just saying so. It caused a lot of bad things. I didn't mean to hurt anyone.

( In Jack's mind at the time, lying was bad so it would be a good thing if no one could lie. Then they'd always tell the truth. But it was wrong to manipulate everyone's minds like that and he realized that after it happened, but at the time, all he'd been is angry and hurt. Castiel's fear of him is very real and Jack's fear of himself is also very real. He almost never means harm, but he still causes it.)

And I'm stronger now. Double what I was then. I don't know what I'm capable of. He said he thought he should kill me. I planned on dying to stop Chuck and I felt like that was okay, because maybe I shouldn't be alive at all.
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[personal profile] godjr 2025-08-05 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack wants to tell him then about Mary just to spit it all out, the worst thing he ever did, but ( Sam from his time forgave him, and he doesn't know if he will again. Not without the experience of loving and losing Jack before that, which made it harder for him to swallow, hating the child he'd raised. Maybe in time he'll believe he can be honest and not lose the love he's clinging to, but he's not there yet. Castiel already hates him (in his mind).

He listens to Sam instead but there's uncertainty in his gaze. He wants to believe him but he's unsure if he should. He remembers when Sam told him that he understood what it was like to be him and he's bringing it up now too. To know that Sam also had feelings like this at some point is somewhat helpful, and maybe gives Jack some insight into why Sam so aggressively refused to listen to reason about him killing Chuck no matter what the cost. )


You're a good father, Sam, you always have been.

( Sam was his first real parent, because Castiel was dead when Jack was born. Sam took over for him for the start, and he treated him kindly and gently. Jack connected to him right away, and for him at least, he's always seen clearly the way he loves his parents. Even a complicated one like Dean. )

But this Castiel sees me as Dean sees me. And I've never thought that they were wrong.

( It hurt his feelings, obviously, Dean's hatred of him stung a great deal in those early days. Eventually they established a relationship, but he destroyed it with Mary. Still, he always rationally understood Dean's point of view, even as it upset him. Maybe not in the start, before he did anything bad, but later on, it became so clear. )

It's a very present concern that I'm three times an archangel now. I'm extremely dangerous. I'm doing my best to control it but I could be a threat to this world.
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[personal profile] godjr 2025-08-21 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
( Another time, Jack would have been perceptive enough to pick up on Sam's surprise and emotional journey related to him calling him father for the first time. By his time, Sam knows that he's Jack's father, and their relationship is incredibly strong. Stronger perhaps than any other bond that he has, Castiel included. But he is too upset at the moment to pay much attention to anything other than his own fear and suffering.

Castiel's hit upon one of Jack's greatest weaknesses: his fear of himself and what he can do. It's been there from the first day, and while he's managed to do great things with his powers, and protect people using them, it's such an uncontrollable problem. A part of him does wonder if Castiel is right. He could have manipulated his mind. It's within his powers. He keeps expecting this Castiel to love him so it's difficult to understand that he can't.)


I haven't always been the good guy, Sam. I haven't always made you proud. I was out of control for a while and you had to lock me away, which I was mad about then, but I knew afterward you were right.

( It's said casually but to be frank, it was anything but casual to Jack at the time. He doesn't hold it against Sam though, not now. He sees so clearly on the other side of it the point they had to make. Jack proved that fear correct. And now he sees himself climbing up past that.)

But we don't have anything like a ma'lak box here. If I go wrong again, who can stop me?